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韩寒厦门演讲:中国为什么不是文化大国
韩寒:中国为什么不是文化大国

【李华芳按:我做了一些编辑,主要是韩寒童鞋的上海普通话听得有些北方人糊里糊涂,我这种在上海的就相对习惯一些。同时本文参考了http://zkaip.com/2010/02/01/xiamen-university-hanhan/的一个先期整理稿。】
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第二次来到厦门,然后这里的空气很好,难怪大家都喜欢散步啊。

刚才我听邓老师说了一些关于爱国主义的一些问题,我想到了两句话,我是之前看到的,是别人这么说的:第一句话是—爱国主义是流氓最后的庇护所。第二句话是—真正的爱国主义就是要保护这个国家,让这个国家不受到政府任何的迫害

然后今天我为了一些说的内容带了一个稿纸,这是为了约束我自己。主要是让大家不要受到什么迫害,“我怕我满嘴跑火车”,开始了啊:

各位领导,各位老师,各位同学大家好,大家知道中国为什么成为不了文化大国吗?因为在我们大部分讲话的时候,各位领导都是放在第一位的,而大部分领导都是没有文化的。“他们还是惧怕文化的,是审查文化,但是呢,他们又能够控制文化,所以说这个国家怎么够成为,文化大国呢?各位领导你们说呢?”

其实中国是有成为一个文化大国的潜力的。我给大家讲个故事。我主编一本杂志,现在都没有出版。但宪法上有规定啊,每个公民都拥有出版的自由,但是呢我们的王法又有规定,就是领导有不让你出版的自由。这个杂志呢很多地方在审查上遇到了很多问题,封面有一副漫画,漫画是一张图,主人公是个男的,他没有穿衣服。当然这就是不可以了,因为相关的法律法规规定不能露出那个阴部来公开的出版。但这是我认可了,所以把那个杂志特别大的一个LOGO啊就挡在它那个不合法的部位,然后后来这些出版社的审查人员就告诉我说,诶,这个不可以,你把这个人的中间这个地方啊挡住了,你这是在暗喻“档中央”。
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我的反应和大家一样啊,我被雷到了。我当时脑子里就在想,把你这个惊天地泣鬼神的想象力啊用在文艺创作上,而不是用在文艺审查上那该有多好。通过这个故事我想告诉大家,其实大家都是有想象力的啊,但是很多事情我们只能想,我们不能。。。不能去做,不能写,甚至有的场合不能说。

我们的限制太多了,这是一个限制级的国家。在限制级的国家里怎么可能产生非常丰富的文化。我已经算是一个自我限制很少的一个同志了。但是在我作品的时候呢,有个警报就在响,警察不能写,领导不能写,政策不能写,制度不能写,司法不能写,历史不能写,西藏不能写,新疆不能写,集会不能写,游行不能写,黄色不能写,焚烧不能写,低俗不能写,啊,高雅我也写不出。抱歉啊,我真的写不出高雅,我又不是余秋雨

我在网路上发表的一些文章啊,尺度已经算是比较大的。有很多写剧本的朋友,比如张爱玲这些写剧本的朋友,包括宁财神啊写一些话剧,还有电影编剧,他们非常的痛苦啊。在这样的一个文化环境下,我就开始想,如果你成为一个文化大国,除非全世界都是在谈中国、朝鲜和阿富汗。

朝鲜是文化禁地,大家都知道。然后阿富汗是因为国内的局势正在搞不清楚他还顾不上,但纵然这样,他们都有作家写出了《追风筝的人》。当然遗憾的是这不是在阿富汗说的,我想,一旦阿富汗搞清楚了,也不是没有可能去超过朝鲜。

我们所谓的在国际交流上不断赞扬一些四大名著和孔孟之道,这样就像相亲的时候女方问你有没有钱,你说你祖宗十八辈上有钱。这是没用的。这个杯具的造成,和大家没有任何的关系。但通往朝鲜的道路,是由每一个沉默的人铺就的。某一方面我们当然要比朝鲜强很多啊。因为大家也都知道朝鲜是什么样子的。另外一方面呢,我相信在座的大家,其实很多人,大家不一定沉默啊,大家只是被和谐了

在中国的这个扫黄史上,可能很多同学,我想大家应该都知道,毕竟是大学生,大家都知道虽然现在的一些教材上并没有具体内容,就是邓丽君和刘文正都是黄色的,下流淫秽,但是呢因为听的人多了他们就变成了黄色和下流,他们就不淫秽了,但是呢到最后全国人民都在听,所以他们既不黄色也不下流了。

如果我们都能够来反对文化的审查,让我们的屏蔽词里除了那些反人类的词汇不再有其他词汇,那我们才有可能去创造出一个文化大国,哪怕是在这个过程当中你我的名字都会进入这个屏蔽词库,但我相信一个屏蔽词库是有它的最大载重量的,每一个新增加的词汇都是在加速它的灭亡。

我希望我们的新闻媒体的从业者,我们的学生老师,每一个文化的从业者爱好者,包括我们的管理者,可以努力让我们的屏蔽和审查越来越少。我们的领导们,因为这个领导是和大家分开的啊,所以我们的领导我们的政府可以有足够的自信让文化更加的开放。我知道我们的领导很喜欢向国外输出我们的文化,觉得这是一个强国的象征,但是以现有的文化我觉得实在是输不出去的。我们在创造文化作品的时候,每一个作者每一个从业人员,他们在时刻进行着自我的审查,在这样一个创作环境下,我觉得怎么能产生像样的文化作品呢,在全世界范围内。你把文艺作品阉割得像新闻联播一样给外国人看,然后企图输出中国的文化,你当外国人是外星人啊。

中国是不是在经济上真正的崛起了,这个呢要等我们的房地产业崩盘了以后再看,现在一切都不好说,但是如果一个国家在文化上真正的崛起了,那它真的是一个强国,而且我想应该永远不会有崩盘的危险。

最后说回到我们的屏蔽词库,一个屏蔽词库里的词越势多,我们这个国家的文化就会越势弱。当然我们的政府会给大家很多的解释,他们会告诉你,我们这么做是为了保护青少年,是为了社会的稳定,文化是自由的。所以他们有权屏蔽任何危害青少年,破坏社会稳定的资讯和文化。但是如果你认同了,迟早有一天你会发现,你在控诉你的遭遇的时候,他们会将你屏蔽,罪名是破坏社会稳定。到了最后,凡是不利于统治阶层的,不利于他们获得利益的言论,都是破坏社会的稳定,都是危害青少年。如果我们当时容忍了绿霸花季护航的话,那么我们就会看到绿霸花甲护航,到那个时候就不光光是文化的东西了。

所以同学们,我们不能让这一天的到来。否则在若干年以后,在子孙们通过卫星接收到的电子课本的历史书上,我们都会是笑料

谢谢大家。


This is my second time in Xiamen.  The weather here is great.  No wonder people like to go outside and stroll.  Hmmm ... I just heard Teacher Deng spoke about certain issues on nationalism.  I was reminded of a couple of sayings which I came across them previously.  They are other people's words, not mine.  The first saying is, "Nationalism is the last refuge of scoundrels."  The second sentence is, "True patriotism is to protect this country so that it will not suffer any harm."

For today's talk, I have brought along a written speech in order to constrain myself.  Mainly, I don't want you to suffer any harm because I may stray all over the place.  Let me begin.

Dear leaders, dear teachers, dear students, how are you?  Do you know why China cannot become a grand cultural nation?  It is because most of the time when we speak, we put "Dear leaders" first and those leaders are uncultured.  Not only that, for they are also afraid of culture, they censor culture and they control culture.  So how can such a nation become a grand cultural nation?  Dear leaders, what do you say?

Actually, China has the potential to become a grand cultural nation.  Let me tell you a story.  I am the chief editor of a magazine which has yet to be published.  The Constitution states that every citizen has the freedom to publish, but the law also says that the leaders has the freedom not to let you publish.  This magazine encountered certain problems during the review process.  There is a cartoon drawing.  In it, there is a man without clothes -- of course, this is unacceptable because the law says that we cannot exhibit the private parts in a publicly available magazine.  I agree with that and I don't have a problem with it.  Therefore, I intentionally created an extra-large magazine logo to place at the illegal spot of the cartoon.  But unexpectedly, the publisher and the censor told us that this was unacceptable too -- when you cover up the middle part of a person, you are referring to the "Party Central" (note: "party" is a homonym for "block/shield" and "central" can mean either "center" or "middle").  My reaction was like yours -- I was awed and shocked.  I thought to myself, "Friend, it would be so wonderful if you could put your awe-inspiring imagination into literary creation instead of literary censorship."

I use this story to tell you that everybody has good imagination.  Yet we can only imagine many things but we cannot do them, we cannot write about them and we cannot even talk about them in many situations.  We have too many restrictions.  This is a restricted country.  How can a restricted country produce a rich and abundant culture?  I am a comrade who has few restrictions.  But when I write, I cannot help but think: I can't write about the police, I can't write about the leaders, I can't write about government policies, I can't write about the system, I can't write about the judiciary, I can't write about many pieces of history, I cannot write about Tibet, I cannot write about Xinjiang, I cannot write about assemblies, I cannot write about demonstration marches, I cannot write about pornography, I cannot write about censorship, I cannot write about art.  I am unable to write anything elegant.  I am really incapable of writing anything elegant because I am not Yu Qiuyu.

Internet essays have more room.  Many friends who write scripts.  I know some friends who write scripts (such as Ning Caishen's theatre scripts) and others who write movie scripts.  They suffer a lot.  Under such a cultural environment, I wonder how can China be a grand cultural nation.  Maybe if the world is reduced down to China, North Korea and Afghanistan.  Everybody knows that culture is out of bounds in North Korea.  In Afghanistan, the situation with the nation is still unclear so they can't be bothered with culture for now.  Even so, they have a writer who wrote <The Kite Chaser>, which unfortunately was not published in Afghanistan.  I think that once Afghanistan sorts itself out, it may possibly surpass China.

In our so-called international exchanges, we cannot keep bringing out the Four Great Works or the sayings of Confucius and Mencius.  We know that this is like a conversation during a marriage interview.  The girl's side asks you if you are rich and you reply that your ancestors eighteen generations ago were very rich.  That won't help you now.  We did not cause this tragedy, even though it is said that the road to North Korea is paved by the silence of everybody.  On one hand, we are better than North Korea because we know what it is like there.  On the other hand, I think that many of you present today are not silent -- it is just that we are being harmonized.

In the history of the war against pornography in China, many fellow students are aware (even though these facts have been disappeared from the teaching materials) that Teresa Deng and Liu Wenzheng were pornographic, vulgar and indecent once up a time.  When too many people listened to them sing, they became pornographic, vulgar and indecent.  But when every Chinese person listened to them sing, they were no longer pornographic, vulgar or indecent anymore.  If we all oppose cultural censorship so that the the only words left in the database of banned words are anti-human ones, we can create a grand cultural nation.  It does not matter if my name or yours get added into the database.  I believe that the database has a maximum capacity and every additional word will accelerate its destruction.

I hope that our news media workers, our students, our teachers, our cultural workers and our cultural lovers will try our best to reduce the censorship, and our leaders (who are not the same as our parents) and our government may have sufficient self-confidence to become more open.  I know that our leaders like to export our culture because this is a sign of a strong nation.  But I feel that our present culture is not exportable.  In this creative environment, all writers/workers are constantly censoring themselves.  How can any respectable work be produced in this environment?  Around the world, you attempt to export Chinese culture by offering works that have been castrated like <Network News> to foreigners.  Do you think these foreigners are aliens from outer space?  On the issue of whether China has truly risen up economically, I think we should wait until the real estate industry collapses because we cannot tell right now.  But if a nation truly rises up culturally, it will be a strong nation and it will never have any fear of collapsing.

Finally, I want to return to the database of banned words.  The more words are in that database, the weaker the culture of that nation will be.  But our government gives you plenty of explanations.  They tell you that this is being done to protect young people and to maintain social stability.  Culture is free, so they have the right to censor any information or culture that may endanger young people or destroy social stability.  But if you agree with that, then sooner or later that when you complain about what happened to you one day, they will censor you because you are destroying social stability.  Any opinion that is disadvantageous to the ruling class or their interests destroys social stability and endangers young people.  If we had put up with the Green Dam software back then, we would have Green Dam operating now.  When that time comes, we will not just be looking at the demise of culture.  So fellow students, we cannot let this day arrive.  Otherwise, we will be the laughing stock in the electronic history books that our grandchildren will receive via satellite many years from now.

Thank you, everybody.

英文版参见:http://www.zonaeuropa.com/201002a.brief.htm#004

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[匿名] asdio [220.189.142.*] @ 2010/2/2 19:30:39
晕哈,英文版都出来了啊,感觉韩寒演讲还真不是长项,比较随意~~ 而且这里面的意思都是他在博客里面表达过很多次了的,对于老读者来说是没什么新意了,不过,关键是敢讲,目前在中国我看到的有他这么大名气的,他是最敢讲的人,比较无所顾忌。
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[匿名] 乒乓 [110.64.143.*] @ 2010/2/2 20:00:27
作为一名老读者,我还是觉得很不错的!楼上的鸡蛋里挑骨头
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[匿名] fishabc0 [218.82.234.*] @ 2010/2/2 20:52:41
韩寒的演讲水平已有明显的提高了
在中国不适合激情澎湃的演讲,很容易被和谐,智慧闷逗型的才是王道
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alertsniper [119.137.235.*] @ 2010/2/2 20:55:49
韩寒啊韩寒,我真的为你担心啊!担心有一天你都被河蟹了!
//以前我以为我写文章骂ZF骂得够狠了,现在我知道了,原来我还差远了~
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[匿名] aisex [58.240.23.*] @ 2010/2/2 21:34:01
这个时候顶风直言
韩寒 你他妈真牛
正因为你的存在 我尚对这个和谐的国家 抱有一丝的希望
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[匿名] 牛顶顶 [121.228.253.*] @ 2010/2/2 21:54:43
需要我们的觉醒才有希望,不让他们的努力付诸流水
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[匿名] aisex [58.240.23.*] @ 2010/2/2 21:56:10
2011年6月1日 上海讯: 接到群众举报,税务连同公安 工商等部门联合检查了韩寒位于上海浦东某写字楼的编辑出版公司,初步检查发现该公司涉嫌巨额偷税漏税行为,目前韩寒已被上海公安部门刑事拘留。
上海有关部门就此事表态,声称韩寒被拘留与其近年发表的政治性言论无关,并再次重申,中国政府一向对于偷税漏税行为坚决予以打击,而中国的宪法和法律保障公民的言论自由。
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[匿名] 愛自由,愛Google [123.114.165.*] @ 2010/2/2 21:56:39
被河蟹也比自我阉割好
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[匿名] 打吧 [119.119.112.*] @ 2010/2/2 22:01:23
祖国他妈的土皇帝遍地开花“爱国愤青”视而不见,一个他妈的台湾猴急,收复了安排一个土皇帝过去?
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欧克 [113.129.160.*] @ 2010/2/2 22:08:06
非常一般的演讲


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[匿名] 骚山 [60.222.228.*] @ 2010/2/2 22:16:51
韩寒的宅心仁厚 谑笑背后的泪水 有几人识得?
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[匿名] ftg [125.38.9.*] @ 2010/2/2 22:36:52
小峰似乎已经被和谐了
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[匿名] dd [98.19.153.*] @ 2010/2/2 22:57:03
韩寒的普通话很好地
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火上肝头 [113.105.133.*] @ 2010/2/2 23:05:31
拜托,韩寒!你他妈的不要这么犀利好不好.

[匿名] dawazhang [218.107.132.*] @ 2010/2/3 0:11:33
世界上只有傻比和愤青。在傻比眼里,世界上只有愤青。在愤青眼里,世界上只有傻比。

然而傻比的生活水准,自由程度,权利多少,如此等等,都是愤青造成的。
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[匿名] 粪 [119.119.104.*] @ 2010/2/3 0:58:26
也就在国内“愤青”才起作用,帮助共匪稳固政权,他们眼里的“傻比”其实根本根本就不存在,最倒霉的“傻比”是农民工人,其实许多也都是他们爹妈。
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neerforest [221.221.25.*] @ 2010/2/3 1:58:35
韩寒,向你表达我所能有的尊敬.
作为同龄人,我也在做一个干净的人.
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非常墨+1 [60.2.51.*] @ 2010/2/3 2:25:18
像韩寒那样作一个纯粹的人,一个高尚的人,一个脱离了低级趣味的人并不容易~~

自从严牛成了太监,就只好自我宣传:
http://www.bullock.cn/blogs/fcm1/
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[匿名] 蓝铠骑士 [123.181.69.*] @ 2010/2/3 3:25:39
通往朝鲜的路是我们铺就的
是我们每一个人用愚蠢、明哲保身和隐忍铺就的
有什么样的国民,才会有什么样的政府
韩寒当然说的对,但我还想补充两句
不是什么事一骂共产党就完事大吉的,想想共产党是谁供养着的,是我们
我们每个人对中国的现在都难辞其咎,当你甘愿被压迫和剥削的时候,你的枷锁就是你和统治者携手戴到脖子上的
改变,从自己做起,拒绝被剥削,可以从每一件小事上做起,“非暴力不合作”是每个人都有能力做到的
正如韩寒
让我们努力
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[匿名] 123 [60.20.134.*] @ 2010/2/3 9:05:32
骂,救不了中国!!!
只能越陷越深!!!!
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